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Navigation: Main → Competitive → Articles → Uber Speed List → Read Articles - Read - Uber Speed ListA guide containing information on key Speed stats in the Uber metagame
ArticleThis is the Uber Speed List, here to make it easier for you to make EVspreads in the new Uber Shoddy Ladder. With the advent of the Scarf inthe metagame, new boosting moves and the introduction of new ubers, thespeed list will certainly need a revamp. To use this list firstsearch (ctrl+F) for the Pokemon you are training or EVing. Then decidewhich threats you wish to outspeed, going up the list. Finallycalculate your spread. eg. Hasty (+Speed, -Def) Mewtwo with 252EVs can hit 394 speed. But the next highest is at 384 speed (+SpeedDarkrai). So Hasty Mewtwo can safely run 385 speed (216 EVs) and neverlose any extra matchups. Boosting: you can find a target speedyou’d like to hit after one x1.5 boost (Dragon Dance or Choice Scarf),and then multiply that target speed by 2/3. Rounding up the result willgive your desired starting speed. So if you wanted to hit 384 speed (outspeed +Speed max Darkrai) after one Dragon Dance or Choice Scarf boost, use this formula: 384 * 2 / 3 to get 256 speed So without further ado... --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Uber Speed List: 102: no speed neutral Wobbuffet 116: no speed neutral Shedinja and Forretress 146: no speed Blissey 158: Careful minimum Speed CB Tyranitar 179: Shedinja's maximum 200: This is the absolute minimum for Chlorophyll/Swift Swim Pokemon; it beats max speed Deoxys-A without a +speed nature. 216: Adamant Groudon and Modest Kyogre, with minimum speed investment. Deoxys-D also sits there. 222:standard Kyogre sets (Calm Minders and Resttalkers with 24 EVs), Choice(non Scarf) Dialga sets will often sit at 223 with 32 Spd EVs.Incidentally Adamant max speed Tyranitar hits 221 (uncommon). 225: Adamant (or neutral) Rayquaza has 225 speed as its minimum. Choiced and mix sets will often sit here. 231: +Speed max speed Chlorophyll Pokemon that need to beat out Salaced Groudon and Jolly Ninjask. 239: max speed of all neutral natured Metagross 250: +Speed/max speed Scizor 266: After a Choice Scarf boost, this reaches Deoxys-A's max speed 269: max speed neutral Heracross 273: Smeargle's max speed276: max speed neutral Arceus 279: The neutral base 90s (Deoxys-D, Dialga, the weather starters, Giratina and Ho-oh). 289: max speed neutral Rayquaza 303: max speed Adamant Garchomp 307: +Speed max speed Kyogre and Groudon 319: max speed neutral natured Latios and Latias, Lugia and +Speed Rayquaza 328: max speed +Speed Mew, Manaphy and Palkia 340: Neutral max speed Arceus 350: max speed neutral Darkrai and max speed +Speed Latios/Latas 359: Modest Mewtwo's max speed. Choice Scarf max speed/+Speed Metagross hits 358 372: max speed +Speed Dugtrio as well as max speed +Speed nature Arceus. 383: +Speed max speed Weavile 384: +Speed max Darkrai399: max speed neutral Deoxys-A 404: Choice Scarf Adamant Heracross. It's also the speed of neutral Metagross after one Agility and Swift Swim +Speed Ludicolo 409: +Speed max Smeargle after a Salac boost 418: is neutral Scarf Kyogre, Scarf Groudon and Scarf Dialga, but 419 is the absolute max speed of +Speed Choice Scarf Heatran 433: neutral/max Speed Rayquaza after one DD (or one Scarf boost) 438: +Speed max Deoxys-A (and also Deoxys)455: Adamant Scarf Garchomp 459: +speed Scarf Kyogre (standard set) 461: This beats Jolly Ninjask, at least until Speed Boost kicks in. Rare. 476: +Speed standard Yanmega after one speed boost 491: The Choice Scarf base 100s with +Speed natures sit here (particularly Palkia) 499: all Jolly Scarf Garchomp538: all Modest Scarfed Mewtwo 558: max speed neutral Groudon after one Rock Polish. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Andthat’s pretty much the Uber Speed List. You can help by adding popularsets, more choice scarf sets, boosting numbers (to reach [insertimportant number here], X Pokemon be at [insert Speed Number here] andreceive [insert boost number here] This guide was written by me, MillionDaggers. Other people who've helped out are: TPX and his OU speed guide Cross Dragon and his OU/BL speed list Smogon's TheMaster42 for this guide (the part which details how to use a speed list) SNX7 of The Libelldra Forge as well as my uber guide, here. PS. I'll add the IV calculator link when it's finished Enjoy! |
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